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serious business: vendor meals June 27, 2011 posted in Serious Business

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Back in February of this year, the Question of The Week on The Stylish Planner was about Vendor Meals.  Specifically, do you accept a vendor meal, or do you request the same meal as the guests?  I am closing out the Question of the Week series this Fall, but in the process of that, I am providing my own answers to the questions I posed.  So….here is my take on Vendor Meals:

In case I have any newer planners or brides reading this post, I’d just like to clarify which vendors typically are fed at the client’s expense at a wedding.  My rule of thumb is any vendor that remains on site while dinner is being served should also be fed, especially if the service they are providing is crucial to the event and they cannot leave to go and get something.  This usually includes the photographer(s), videographer(s), the band, the wedding planner and their staff.  In cases where security is being provided, I also recommend a meal for them, especially if they are working alone or are an off duty police officer.  I do not typically recommend that onsite event staff be fed by the client, although sometimes the caterer will provide food for them as a courtesy, especially if the venue and the caterer have a good working relationship.

I highly recommend to planners that you include the topic of vendor meals with your clients as soon as you begin budget discussions.  It may not seem like a big deal, but a $300 – $400 unexpected expense in the last days leading up to the wedding can be a big deal to a client who thought they had everything covered.  Prepare them in advance for this and discuss with them any vendors that are requesting anything above a vendor meal.  In my market, vendor meals range from $15 – $27 depending on the venue and what kind of meal the chef prefers to prepare for vendors (see below).

There are a few ways that vendor meals can be provided:

1)  A boxed lunch type meal that was prepared earlier in the day and refrigerated. 

2)  A separate, less expensive meal than what is being provided for the guests is prepared.  (I see this frequently at country clubs and other private facilities.)

3)  The vendor receives the same meal as the guests.  Sometimes the caterers will prepare a plate for the vendor, sometimes the vendor is asked to go through the line with the guests. 

I have worked with several photographers that request the same meal as the guests.  Some even have it written in their contracts.  What I hear over and over from photographers is that, “We work very hard.  We are on our feet for 8 – 10 hours shooting and carrying heavy equipment.  If we leave to go buy a decent meal, we will not be able to capture all of the wedding.”  I hear you, I really do.  If you have it in your contract to be provided a guest meal, then that is what you will receive, but please don’t show up expecting to eat along with the guests – even if you are provided the guest meal, vendors typically sit separate from guests, unless you have been specifically invited to be included as a guest by the client. 

I’ve also had bands request the same meal as the guests, as well as access to the bar, but either myself or my client typically declines.  To me, regarding bands, it is purely a money issue.  With an average of 8 – 10 members per band, at $75+ per person for food, with another $10 – $15 for alcohol, very quickly the cost of an average band in my market would go from about $3,500 to well over $4,200.  Pertaining to the bar…I’m pretty old fashioned when it comes to that.  If you are working, you don’t need to be drinking. 

The policy that I have chosen to implement for my company, FAVOR Events is that we will gladly accept whatever vendor meal is provided.  I do, however, have it written in my contract that we will be provided a meal and a designated area for breaks.  Over the years, I’ve only had one or two weddings, where we were not provided food and could not leave the venue to go and eat.  At one wedding in particular, I sat on the kitchen floor and ate a Subway sandwich that my assistant had to go pick up for me because we were not provided either a meal or a place for breaks.  Every family is different and you can’t assume anything, so whatever you are asking for, it is best to put it in the contract.

There are so many reasons I have chosen not to ask for a guest meal.  For one thing, I rarely get to slip away for more than 15-20 minutes at any wedding.  If I were wolfing down a heavy meal in that time frame, it would literally make me sick.  It would quite honestly be a waste of money for my client to provide that for me, my meals go half eaten anyway.  Another reason is, I need the down time away from guests.  15 minutes of quiet away from the noise and the demands is so helpful to me.  I can analyze how the first portion of the event has gone and strategize the next portion of the evening.  Being able to slip my shoes off and put my feet up for a few moments is what gets me through the rest of the evening.  Whenever possible, I have my assistant take their break before me, then there is always someone near the client if they should need anything.  I try to take my break last after all other vendors in case there are not enough vendor meals, then I can always see if the caterer has something left from the guest meal, or I can grab a protein bar from my emergency kit.  I’m usually too busy to think much about feeling hungry.

The last reason I have chosen not to ask for guest meals is my concern over the appearance of impropriety.  If I am having the guest meal, the best time to have it is when the guests are also having their dinner time.  I need to eat quickly and get back to work, so I have 3 choices:  1)  Ask a server to make me a plate, 2)  Jump in line in front of guests, or 3)  Wait until all guests have gone through the line.  None of these choices are especially good.  If I ask a server to make me a plate, first of all, I am pulling valuable resources from the catering staff at their peak service time in the evening.  Second of all, if a guest notices that I had a server making me a plate, they will form an opinion about me, likely not a good one, and that opinion will forever become their impression of me and my company.  Same thing if I jump in front of a guest.  If I wait until all guests have been served, then it isn’t very likely that I will have time to enjoy the food and make it back in time for the next item in the timeline.   If, instead, I go with the vendor meal, at the top of the guest dinner time, then I have easily enough time to enjoy my meal and put my feet up.  Even better, there is no worry about the food getting cold!

I think as planners, we see the budget side of things and think more about the logistics of serving a second set of guests or serving a separate meal than other vendors do.  You will never hear me say that a photographer or band member does not deserve a wonderful meal or an extended break for their hard work.  Quite the contrary, and if I could, I would treat the whole vendor team to a great meal after the wedding.  I just prefer to see egos put aside and the emphasis placed on the client on their wedding day.  It is not about you or how hard you work.

Having said all that, I do my very best to make sure every single vendor gets a piece of cake or other dessert, and my staff and I will serve them water or sodas all night long as time allows.  It’s a small token really, but there is almost always more than enough dessert, and it doesn’t take away from the service staff for me to arrange this for the vendors. 

What are your thoughts on vendor meals?

  • Jeannine Kennedy:

    Megan: Thanks so much for sharing this link! It is so interesting to see the variety of meals that this photography has received over the years. I will share this on Twitter also!

    2011.Jul.12 5:33 pm

  • Megan:

    i was going though google and came across this. where i live, it seems like the vendor food is required but in the area i am having my wedding, it isn’t. i wasn’t sure what they even ate and wanted to see, and ran across this blog. if you want to see, its here http://whattheyfedme.wordpress.com/2008/06/28/wedding-catering-meals-vendors/ and there were loads of pics too some were funny and some looked so tasty.

    2011.Jul.12 2:52 am

  • Jeannine Kennedy:

    Erin:

    Thanks for the comment. I honestly had no idea that venues with onsite kitchens were not feeding vendors willingly. That is really unfortunate. The cost and difficulty I think comes in when they are doing offsite catering. It does seem that the easiest solution would be to provide vendors with the same meal as guests. I wish there were a way to make an across the board agreement with caterers to do so. Caterers provide anywhere from 25% to 5% overage on food, depending on the company. Now if they are only providing 5% overage and a few extra guests show up or extra vendors were not accounted for, the extra food can very quickly run out. Probably the biggest wedding faux paus possible is to run out of food when people are still eating, so I definitely see the caterers need to account for every person that eats, however small the portions may be. Extra food is an extra cost to the caterer, so they would need to either build in the cost for vendor meals to the client or charge the individual vendor, neither of which is a great solution. If we vendors wait until all guests are served, we run the risk of not getting a meal at all, or getting a meal too late. I suppose my bottom line is this: the client should not need to worry about arranging this. If there is a planner involved, they need to take care of making sure the vendors get whatever they requested in their contracts. If there is no planner involved, the vendor needs to take the initiative to make sure that their meal is being arranged. Venues with onsite coordinators make their bread and butter sometimes by saying that the client won’t need to hire a wedding planner. That being the case, the onsite coordinator needs to take care of arranging the vendor meals to the satisfaction of the request in the vendor’s contract. Also, a key element to making this work for everyone is bringing in to the attention of the appropriate person early in the planning process, not the week of the wedding, and definitely not by showing up in the kitchen during guest dining and asking for a hot meal.

    It’s been very surprising for me to see what an issue this is. Very eye-opening. Wedding vendors work very hard – they need to be fed a good meal. It shouldn’t be this difficult.

    2011.Jul.07 12:47 pm

  • Erin Cady:

    As a photographer, my contract just states that any event over 4 hours in length, requires that I be fed. My best friend who I often shoot with requires a “hot meal”, but personally, I am ok with whatever. I suppose I just want to be considered as a human being! I completely agree with you on the stance of hating the thought of an expensive heavy meal going to waste. (although my assistant could eat a huge heavy meal in 15mins and be perfectly happy every time. Maybe it’s because he’s a guy? not sure. haha) I can also say that it is very important that we are eating while the bride and groom are eating so that we are available to them to photograph when they’re done. I always hate trying to talk to a server and getting the death look when I ask if there is any way I can get my meal after the bride and groom are served. These are generally weddings without planners, and it seems that even though the bride and I have discussed it prior and she is completely on board and understands, the venues treat me as if I am being rude or demanding when all I’m trying to do is get 15min to shove food in my face so I can be ready for my client again. I can also definitely say that I have gotten the whole spectrum as far as the quality of the meal. One of the highest end venues in Aspen is known for serving terrible vendor meals. It always blows my mind to go to a high end venue that told us they had no where for us to be or sit period, and we were ABSOLUTELY not allowed to be seen eating by guests. Am I not a human that is allowed to eat? wouldn’t want the guest seeing us slaves eating. ;) Now I joke, but that is really how it felt. We ended up sitting on the floor outside the ballroom, with a guard at the door, eating a soggy cold sandwich that had to have been made days prior. I was starving, had been with the bride since before lunch time (which often means at this point we’ve also skipped lunch) and I couldn’t even stomach more than the apple and my cookie. 4 hours later I was going to have an hour long drive home with not even a fast food option. I can remember that drive and just shaking by the time I got in my door. There is also a scenario like last week where I got a wonderful vendor meal, but it had several items in it that I don’t like. I’m not a very particular person, but without any option, I picked through it a bit, ate very little and ultimately didn’t eat. So while the effort was completely in the right place, I would have been much happier to run through the line and get salad and a roll. The vendor meal cost ending up being a waste as well where there was plenty of food that they would not have needed to pay for an extra head in the buffet line. I guess I always just thought it was easier for the caterer to not have to think about preparing something different for me. I just assumed I was being helpful or easier by asking for the same meal! I’ve actually told brides often that if they are ok with me running through the buffet line, to NOT add a head to their count or ask for a separate meal because I won’t need much anyway. Of course this doesn’t work if they’re doing a plated meal, but is that scenario valid?

    2011.Jul.07 1:06 am

  • Jeannine Kennedy:

    Thanks, Ben. I couldn’t agree more with your mention of the planner’s responsibility to review contracts. In addition to meals, planners should be pulling start and finish times, required breaks, payment schedule, etc. I feel a new blog post coming on…

    2011.Jun.30 7:47 am

  • Ben Vigil:

    Hi Jeannine! Unfortunately we live in an age where most of the clauses we vendors put in our contracts come about as a result of having been shafted (so to speak)… so we try to put a few preventative measures in place in the form in contractual fine print. Right after lodging, vendor meals is one of those measures. Our contract states that we are to be served the same meals as guests. This seems like the simplest solution that introduces the least amount of work for those involved, the caterer in particular.

    We still get served “vendor meals” periodically and I usually don’t say anything. My goal on the wedding day is to be a team with solutions, not a source of contention. In fact, over the years the vendor meals have gotten a lot better. That said, in spite of every effort sometimes we still get cold 3-day old “band-wiches” — it’s then that I have to stick up for my team and ask that we get treated better. I’m left wondering why the coordinator didn’t review their client contracts to cover all these bases. I would think that a contract review would be an essential part of ensuring that the vendor meets their contractual obligations. It should NEVER come as a surprise to a coordinator that a vendor requires a hot meal.

    Regarding where we eat, I’m fine with wherever they choose to seat us as long as we have a clear line of communication with the planner so that we are alerted in case anything takes place with the client. As an aside, we’ve had a wedding or two where the client actually reserved a place at tables among the guests for us. When there is a buffet, 9 out of 10 times, the bride or one of the parents approaches us and asks if we got a chance to eat and insists that we eat whatever we want.

    On the other extreme, I have a bride this fall that is absolutely insisting that I have another photographer on hand (I always do), so that when the reception starts I can have fun and party with them. I’m not sure what I’m going to do about that one just yet… :)

    2011.Jun.30 12:43 am

  • Janice Carnevale:

    Hi Jeannine! I have a bunch of mixed thoughts on this subject too. First, I have see photogs require to be seated at a table with the guests. It was a little odd but I see why it is done. Second, most of the non-guest meals are afterthoughts and not particularly satisfying. Third, if one vendor requires a hot meal, I encourage the client to give us all hot meals. Fourth, and finally (for now), I bring up and include these costs as soon as I am working on a catering proposal/contract with a client.

    2011.Jun.28 8:42 am

  • Jeannine Kennedy:

    Exactly, Isha. I don’t mind either if that is what one vendor requests. Negotiating up front is key. I find that my clients are usually quite surprised that they are being asked to provide a hot meal, especially a guest meal for their vendors.

    2011.Jun.27 11:09 pm

  • Jeannine Kennedy:

    Sharon – you’re a genius! I think you may have started a revolution…gourmet meals for wedding planners and photographers from this point forward! I completely agree with you, but I do see the viewpoint of a caterer that comes into a venue (offsite catering) not being able to provide those meals because their profit margin is already strained. Having said that, I did a wedding in Savannah recently in which the caterer fed ALL the vendors free of charge, the same meal as the guests. We did have to wait until guests went through the line, but it put no extra strain on his staff and seemed like a wonderful solution to my belly.

    2011.Jun.27 10:32 pm

  • Jeannine Kennedy:

    Thank you for your comment, Shari. I was hoping a photographer would chime in with their thoughts, and I’m glad you did. So now I feel the need to clarify a couple of my thoughts.

    First, I want to clarify that I definitely do not mean that any vendor should not eat at all during the event, or wait until after the event. I meant that if it were feasible for me to treat the vendors to a meal at any point after the wedding, I would gladly do so as a way to show appreciation because I do value the work of all my vendor partners. My experience comes from vendors that complain of a cold boxed meal in lieu of a hot meal, and in many cases, vendors request the same meal as the guests.

    Next, I think much of what the caterer or onsite chef can do for vendor meals depends on what kind of kitchen equipment they have access to. I now realize I should have pointed out that much of my recent concern comes from outdoor weddings where offsite catering is being used and the caterer has to bring in mobile kitchen equipment. This scenario requires that the caterer either prepare the food onsite in less than idea working conditions or they partially prepare the food in their main kitchens, then finish it off onsite. To add a couple of hot vendor meals to that, would require that the vendor either get the same meal as guests, or the already strained kitchen staff is now also preparing an additional meal. That is a lot to ask even the best caterer to pull off. In my opinion, either of those options takes something away from the client, either their money, or the catering staff’s attention to the client and their guests.

    I too have enjoyed wonderful, hot vendor meals in certain venues. A wedding at Capitol City Club comes to mind. A hot meal was provided for myself, the photographers, and the band at a very reasonable cost to the client. If I recall correctly, this particular venue also feeds their event staff, so providing additional meals for the other vendors was a minimal amount of extra effort.

    As a planner, it is really hard to please the client, the guests, the vendors all at the same time. I’m not sure how other planners operate with their vendors on a wedding day, but my staff and I try to check in on vendors, see if they need anything such as water, sodas, cake, etc. Most usually do want cake, or they are at least thankful that we asked. I did NOT mean cake in lieu of food, although there are days when personally that seems like a good idea, but I digress…

    I love that you give a print credit, that is such a wonderful compromise. I’ve heard other photographers say that they provide a discount on the contract when the client provides them a guest meal. They key there is that it is being addressed up front. You are making your request clear and explaining why that is important to you. I would suggest to ALL vendors that whatever your request – make sure that you point out to clients what you have in your contract. I have encountered photographers and bands that, for lack of a better word, are quite sneaky about it and come expecting the guest meal – and bar access in many cases. Or, they may have a clause in their contract for a hot meal, but they didn’t point that out to the client. It would also be helpful to the caterer or planner if about two weeks prior to the wedding, vendors called to ensure that their request is carried out. Clients do not always provide us with copies of their contracts, nor do they remember that when they hired you a year ago they agreed to provide you with a guest meal. The problem comes when there is a surprise of some sort.

    Of course I know that one bad apple does not always ruin the bunch. Heartfelt apologies if my previous bad experiences relayed any hint of stereotype to any vendor category.

    Thank you for the healthy dialogue.

    2011.Jun.27 10:25 pm

  • Lindsay Pitt:

    Jeannine, this is such a well written article and I agree with all of your points. The client is paying all of the vendors to do a job, and it is kind of them to pay for vendor meals, whatever they may be. I feel very strongly that no vendor should EVER eat among the guests.

    My staff and I put in the most hours of any vendors on the wedding day, often 12+ hours and sitting down to a hot meal on the wedding day just simply is not a reality or a priority.

    I do not request or include vendor meals for me or my staff. We do not have time to eat, we are not there to eat. If there are leftovers and we have time, we will gladly accept. We eat a large lunch and have snacks on hand but it is not and in my opinion should not ever be a priority, we are there to work.

    Thanks for sharing your opinion.

    2011.Jun.27 9:57 pm

  • Shari Zellers:

    I definitely have a lot of thoughts on this subject as a wedding photographer for 12+ years. That being said, I do have a problem with cold meals in the dead of winter in which I’m still shooting plenty of weddings. There are venues that have NO problem serving us right at the same time as the guests in a conference room off to the side so why is it a problem for others? After the wedding is not helpful. I find my energy waivering even after the ceremony when often I’m heading into my 5 hour on my feet doing a very intense job. Going another 3-6 hours without eating SOMETHING more than an oatmeal bar is just not only unfair but really? do you want me to get a headache or pass out? I’m expending a LOT of energy in what I do and it’s really physical.
    And cake? LOL, I’ll pass. I just trade my cake for a salad please. I’m trying to stay in shape and cake will also just make me crash from the sugar overload. I just ignore the dessert except for photo purposes honestly.
    Also on the subject of paying for a meal? I actually give my client a $25 print credit for each meal they serve us (usually two,sometimes three if it’s a big wedding and we require an assistant for logistical reasons). I’m paying them to feed me so…then the venue gets away with not feeding me by saying it’s not convenient. Lovely.
    I do eat quickly, I don’t sit around for more than 15 minutes so I can be back up and in the room before the bride and groom are walking around their guest tables. When this happens the way it should, they are always amazed I’ve already eaten. The time goes by so quickly they don’t notice me gone for those 15-20 minutes (bathroom break).
    I’m not asking for filet mignon – a chicken breast is fine! Some steamed or grilled veggies are divine. A salad is spectacular. Why is this so hard to do?
    I, too, want to eat away from the guest so I can speak to my second shooters or assistants and eat without being asked too many questions about my equipment or how many photos I’ve taken so far. ;o) Guests never see me getting my plate at this one venue I love. They bring it to us quickly and discreetly each time and I worked there twice this weekend and it’s soooooo helpful to our moral, energy and overall well being!
    I just don’t think I’m asking too much. I fed every single one of my vendors on my wedding day and didn’t blink an eye at the cost. It was worth it to me since I value the service they are providing – making my wedding run smoothly and documenting it forever.

    2011.Jun.27 9:21 pm

  • isha | isha foss events:

    We often do extensive setup starting in the morning and require a meal before the usual 8 PM vendor service. We generally bring our own or take the boxed option. I don’t really have any problem with what another vendor wants – as long as they negotiate that up front.

    2011.Jun.27 8:33 pm

  • Sharon Alexander:

    Very timely! There has been a lot of discussion about this, lately. As a vendor who, luckily, gets to spend the wedding hours at home, I’ve really given it some thought.

    If I were the venue I would be sure the photographer and planner were fed no matter what the bride paid or not. Those are two vendors who have a high percentage of being booked by the bride before the venue. They aren’t going to take or recommend a bride to a venue who has treated them poorly. The minimal amount of money it would cost to feed those two to five people is a marketing investment.

    Totally agree that vendors should never go through a line with guests present. And, the photog needs to be finished eating before the bride and groom to not miss anything.

    So agree with all you said!!!

    2011.Jun.27 8:08 pm




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style profile: kathy le backes of the vintage table co. June 23, 2011 posted in style profiles

Kathy Le Backes Photo credit: Joy Harmon Prouty of Wildflowers Photography: www.wildflowersphotos.com

Name:    Kathy Le Backes

Location:    Santa Monica, CA

Company Name:    The Vintage Table Co.

Number of years in business:    6 months

Website:    www.thevintagetableco.com

Blog:    http://thevintagetableco.tumblr.com/

Twitter handle:  @vintagetable    

If you are a wedding and event professional other than a planner, please describe your product or service.     Specialty rental company featuring handpicked vintage place settings (dishware, flatware and glassware) for weddings, events, photo shoots and film/TV sets.

How would you describe your personal style?    Casual, elegant and chic with a touch of vintage. Banana Republic meets Anthropologie. 

What is your “go-to” meeting attire?    Skinny jeans and a blazer or cardigan over a cute top… paired with flats and my big gold watch.

What is your “go-to” evening industry event attire? (i.e., associational meeting, vendor or venue open house, etc.)     Black skinny jeans, a cute top, scarf and heels, or, a vintage dress, black tights and heels.

What is your attire for wedding/event day set-up?    Black leggings, a loose top and flats.

What is your attire for actual wedding/event?   The nature of my business usually does not require me to stay through the actual event, but if I did…

Daytime events: simple jersey dress and peep toe heels or sandals

Evening events: simple black dress and kitten heels      

What style and brand of shoes do you wear on wedding/event days?  Set up: Glittery black TOMS or Cole Haan ballet slippers.  Actual event: DKNY black kitten heels

Tell us about your favorite jeans and why you love them.  Seven for all Mankind jeans… because they STRETCH!

Who is your favorite celebrity style icon and why?    Rachel Zoe—her style is feminine, eclectic, “boho” chic, elegant and vintage. She knows just how to accessorize and how to make a statement without going over the top. There’s a reason why she’s the stylist to the stars!

Please share with us (in 50 words or less) your favorite style tip:    Always wear one statement piece with whatever you’re wearing—a big gold watch, a unique necklace, a stunning cocktail ring, a killer pair of high heels, or some colorful earrings. You can make t-shirt and jeans look like a million bucks with the right statement accessory.

What would you like people to know about you that they may not discover just by viewing your website or blog?   I’m a HUGE foodie! I’m always up for exploring new types of foods and restaurants in Los Angeles… or anywhere I go. I love food so much, I travel to New York once a year just to EAT!

What is your most treasured possession?  A locket with my father’s picture in it. I lost him to cancer four years ago, and I miss him every day. I tied the locket around my wedding bouquet when I got married last year so he would be with me as I walked down the aisle. I wear it around my neck now, so he can continue to be with me today.      

What message would you like to convey to others in our industry?   I am thrilled and so honored to join such a creative and talented group of people. You all continue to inspire me with your amazing designs, helpful tips, unique ideas and most of all – your shared love of celebrating LOVE!

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serious business: working in summer heat June 20, 2011 posted in Serious Business

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Lake Toxaway, North Carolina – site of a FAVOR Events 2009 wedding.  Photos by LaCour.

Well, tomorrow officially welcomes Summer to 2011, although if you are in a warm climate area like me, we have been experiencing hot temperatures since mid-March!  With outdoor weddings so popular among couples, we sometimes spend weeks praying for no rain on the wedding day, only to be faced with extreme heat when the wedding day finally arrives.  What’s a wedding planner to do to stay cool when working an outdoor event in warm temperatures?

Before I share with you my favorite tips, let me add that I’m not sharing this post for purposes of vanity only.  Oh no, working in the hot sun and heat is a serious matter and we need to be careful out there.  Some possible side effects of working in extreme temperatures are:

Increased body temperature and pulse rate
Dehydration
Heat stroke
Heat rash
Increased risk of heart attack or other cardiac problems
Fainting
Nausea/vomiting

I highly recommend creating a buddy system among your staff or vendor partners.  All of us want to do our best work and not slow down production on a wedding day, so having vendors watch out for each other throughout the day can go along way in the prevention of a heat related incident.

Here are some practical tips for surviving the heat:

Build exposure to outdoor conditions over a period of time.  Seriously, spend at least 15 minutes outside for a few days leading up to the wedding day.   Try to replicate the conditions you will be working under – full sun, partial shade, etc.  Humans are, to a large extent, capable of adjusting to the heat. This adjustment, under normal circumstances, usually takes about 5 to 7 days, during which time the body will undergo a series of changes that will make continued exposure to heat more endurable.  With each succeeding daily exposure, any negative responses will gradually decrease, while the sweat rate will increase.

Pre-determine a shady area for tasks and breaks.  By the time you are a week out from an event, you probably have the “lay of the land” when in comes to the areas surrounding the wedding venue.  Choose a shady spot out of the way of other vendors where your staff can assemble set up items, or just sit for a 15-minute break throughout the course of the day.  Providing cool rest areas in hot work environments considerably reduces the stress of working in those environments.

Hydrate – this is a given, of course, but I can’t stress enough how important it is.  Most people exposed to hot conditions drink fewer fluids than needed because of an insufficient thirst drive.  Therefore, we really cannot depend on thirst to signal when and how much to drink. Instead, we should drink 5 to 7 ounces of fluids every 15 to 20 minutes to replenish our body’s necessary fluids.  In the course of a day’s work, a person may produce as much as 2 to 3 gallons of sweat. Because so many heat disorders involve excessive dehydration of the body, it is essential that water intake during the workday be about equal to the amount of sweat produced.

Eat light snacks throughout the day.  Even though it may seem counterintuitive, this is a good time to skip heavy meals.  Light, crisp vegetables or fruit with a little protein will suffice if you are hydrating properly throughout the day. 

Now that we’ve addressed the physical aspect of keeping cool at a summer wedding, here are a few ways to remain looking polished in the heat:

Hair:  Summer weddings are not the time or place for fussy hairdos.  My go-to hairstyle is a simple side-part bang and bun pulled back at the nape of my neck.  I wrap it up pretty tight in the morning and all I need to do later to freshen up is comb through my bangs again and spritz with hair spray.

Make-Up:  Likewise, I keep my make-up very simple and light when it is hot.  Moisturizer with SPF is a must, and I wear very light foundation and eye make-up.  I carry a small bag with me for touch up’s that includes my eyebrow pencil, powder blush, mineral foundation with brush, and lip gloss.  I can touch up in 5 minutes.

Cool water:  One thing I do to stay cool is rinse my hands frequently with cold water, concentrating on my wrists.  Years ago, I read somewhere that if your wrists are cool, you remain cool all over, and I have found that to be true.  Rather than drying my hands off with a towel, I will pat my arms and neck after rinsing to cool my body.  It doesn’t create a mess; it dries very quickly and really does the trick. 

Clothing & Shoes:  I actually find light, knit dresses to be more comfortable than pants or even shorts when working in extreme temperatures.  I find cotton to be the best all around choice.  Not only will it absorb sweat, but also the loose fibers breathe easily, wicking away sweat from your skin instead of trapping it on the surface, which leads to body odor.  Also, my feet swell terribly in hot weather, so as much as I love my comfy running shoes, you won’t find me wearing them for set up at a summer wedding.  My go to shoes for summer weddings are Yellow Box flip-flops.  I probably could not find a less glamorous shoe but they offer the support and cushioning that I need for long days on my feet.  While my summer wedding look is definitely not as stylish as I like to be, I know that I am much more effective for my clients when I keep my look simple and comfortable.

Happy Summer Planning!

NOTE:  Parts of this article were taken from The Centers For Disease Control site: http://www.cdc.gov/niosh/docs/86-112/

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serious business: my simple wedding budget guide June 13, 2011 posted in Serious Business

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By far one of the most difficult things to me about being a wedding planner is explaining to brides how their budget will be spent.  My heart sinks when I talk with brides and they tell me they have a not so small guest count and an unrealistic budget.  I get inquiries all the time through a leads website for (I am not kidding you) $5,000 total budget and 250 – 300 guest counts.  I don’t even respond to these inquiries of course, but many of my qualified leads start out with small budgets that increase, sometimes even double by the time the bride and her family have made informed decisions.  While I have a budget form that I often share that breaks down average spending per category, lately, I have been starting budget discussions with a very simple formula and a detailed dialogue.  It goes something like this:

Hypothetical Scenario:  Bride’s budget = $20,000, Anticipated guest count = 200

The first thing I tell clients is that the national average for weddings is around $27,000.  I also explain to them that Atlanta is a healthy market and most of my weddings average closer to $40-$45,000.  I tell the client that a good general rule of thumb is that 50 – 60% of their total budget will be spent on the reception, with 40% of the total budget going only towards food and food service.  The remaining 10 – 20% of the reception budget is spent on wedding cake, venue fees, alcohol, rentals, etc.   Are there exceptions to this?  Absolutely.  This is merely a jumping off point, to help the client begin to wrap their head around realistic wedding costs.

I literally take out a blank sheet of paper and write some simple calculations for the client.

Based on the above scenario, my notes on a piece of notepaper look something like this:

Reception = 50% of total budget = approximately $10,000

Food & Service Costs for reception = 40% of total budget = $8,000

Divide the food & service costs by the number of guests. $8,000 divided by 200 = $40 per person.

I then ask what they would expect to pay per person for a meal a a nice restaurant that would include an appetizer, a salad, a nice entree with two sides and a dessert.  Then I tell them to add a couple of glasses of wine to that total.  At this point, I can begin to see the realization (and disappointment) sink in.  They are starting to see it all come together.  Very quickly, they can add the actual food total up to about $75 per person, which is the average estimated per person cost that I use for catering with my couples in Atlanta. 

So, a more accurate estimate would be $75 per person X 200 guests = $15,000.  (Remember, this is for food only!)  This only leaves $5,000 for EVERYTHING else for the wedding!  At this point, the client has already exceeded the TOTAL reception budget.  We haven’t even started discussing decor, flowers, linens, tables, chairs, etc.

I then share with the client the good news…by cutting your guest count, you can decrease your budget significantly, and decreasing the guest count has a trickle down effect on almost all budget categories.  Less guests = less cake, less food, less alcohol, fewer tables, fewer chairs, fewer centerpieces, etc.  For every 25 guests removed from the count, clients can expect to save over $2,000.  Cut the guest list by 50 and you’ve successfully decreased your budget by about $4,000.  I find that with weddings over 150 guests, it is very difficult for the couple to make their way around to everyone anyway.  The lower the guest count, the better your wedding will be if budget is a concern to you.

NOTE:  I always budget the alcohol over and above the food cost.  More and more couples are going with beer and wine only instead of a full bar to cut costs, or specifically looking for venues that allow them to bring in their own alcohol.  Because there are so many variables to alcohol, I prefer to keep it separate from food. 

At this point, I talk with the client about other budget categories and give them some ballpark estimates on what they can expect to spend based on what they have in mind.  I talk about some general ways they can save money such as using a DJ instead of a band, repurposing bridesmaids bouquets for centerpieces, etc.  I encourage them to go home and think about what we have discussed, and decide if they will be lowering their guest count or increasing their budget.  I also ask them to prioritize their remaining vendor categories.  For instance, photography is increasingly more important to couples than flowers.  Couples today are open to creative desserts such as pies in lieu of a 5 tiered, ornately decorated wedding cake.

The key thing to remember is that every couple is different and some things are non negotiable for them.  For my clients on a budget, I have started including in my packages a comprehensive budget spreadsheet with an estimated spending category and an actual spending category. Anytime a vendor is booked, I add it to the actual spending and send the client an update so they can see in real time where their spending is taking them.  Many times, my clients do exceed their budgets, but I have always recommended less expensive options for them. 

A final note I would give to my planner colleagues is this:  just because a client may come to you with a small budget does not mean you should discount your services.  I find that I actually work harder on small budget weddings than on larger budget weddings.  Much of my value comes from knowing ways to decrease costs and having creative solutions for my clients that honor their desire for a beautiful event along with their desire to be frugal.

I hope this is helpful information for you.  Feel free to use the formula I shared with your clients. but please keep in mind that my dollar estimates are based on my experience in the Atlanta market.  It will be very helpful for you to know estimated costs in your area.  If you have any questions at all about my method, feel free to email me at info@thestylishplanner.com.

Happy Planning!

  • Jeannine Kennedy:

    Emily – I **HEART** you!

    2011.Jun.13 5:47 pm

  • Emily Humphries:

    GREAT thoughts, friend!! Super helpful and practical!

    2011.Jun.13 4:54 pm




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style profile: rayna ortwein June 09, 2011 posted in style profiles

 

Photo Rayna

http://ninamullinsphotography.com/?load=flash

Location:  Lexington, KY
Company Name:  Always Planned and A Perfect Posy
Number of years in business: 4
Website: www.alwaysplanned.com 
Blog:
www.alwaysplanned.com/blog
Twitter handle: @alwaysplanned
If you are a wedding and event professional other than a planner, please describe your product or service. We are a full service production company, meaning we do planning, design, flowers and décor.
How would you describe your personal style? Versatile.  I tend to adapt to my surroundings.  I love anything girly with ruffles, or sexy with some spice and love a fabulous and fun set of pajamas.  Most importantly I want to feel comfortable and that typically means casual with personality.   Boho Chic!
What is your “go-to” meeting attire? Skinny jeans, flats and a cute loose fitting top.
What is your “go-to” evening industry event attire? (i.e., associational meeting, vendor or venue open house, etc.) I am an ever growing collection of cocktail dresses, sometimes I do a classic pencil skirt and blouse too.
What is your attire for wedding/event day set-up?  We have these super cute and totally rockin t-shirts with our logo on them.  The entire team wears them with jeans.
What is your attire for actual wedding/event?  Typically a black dress.  If the wedding is more formal then I break out the jewels and dress up a little more!
What style and brand of shoes do you wear on wedding/event days?  For inside events I have some cute Cole Hann Air flats.  We do tons of events outside on farms, for those events you will see me in either Chaco flip flops or my Mizuno tennis shoes.  I am typically on my feet for 12-16 hours so great support is idea
Who is your favorite celebrity style icon and why? Zoey Deschanel- I think she is gorgeous!
  I love her style and personality.  I think we would totally be friends if she knew me!  haha
Please share with us (in 50 words or less) your favorite style tip:  I love mixing colors and prints.  Play around with your favorite pieces!  You never know when you will create a fantastic new look and your girlfriends will be copying your savvy style.
What would you like people to know about you that they may not discover just by viewing your website or blog?  I love pigs!  I know it’s so random – but it started when I was a kid when I watched Charlotte’s Web and continues today.  The only difference is now I make it a point to only collect stylish pigs!
What is your most treasured possession?  My passport.
What message would you like to convey to others in our industry? Relax, be yourself and have fun!

  • Andrew:

    Gorgeous picture!

    2011.Jun.09 1:06 pm




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wild card wednesday: app love:: pinterest June 08, 2011 posted in Wild Card Wednesday

One of my brides is responsible for getting me hooked on Pinterest.  “Hooked”, “Addicted”, “Crazy about”, “Pinterest = Crack” are all descriptive words or terms that you will hear when others talk about the app and for good reason…it’s so true!  I haven’t managed to spend less than one hour at a time on Pinterest, unless I am pinning something quickly as I work, in which case I have to force myself not to look at anything, just pin and keep moving!

If you haven’t heard of Pinterest, it really is a wedding planner’s dream app.  I am probably in the minority among planners, but I am not especially good at creating inspiration boards.  I can manage my way around Picasa, but that’s about it, so Pinterest will help me in so many ways.  By far the best description I can share is the one on the Pinterest site’s “About” section.  It says, “Think of Pinterest as a virtual pinboard – a place where you can create collections of things you love and “follow” collections created by people with great taste.”  A virtual pinboard of everything you find and love on the net. Genius!

I’ve only been a user for a few weeks, but I already have boards for some of my weddings, home projects, fashion & style boards, a wish list board, even a board of tattoos I love.  Here’s a screen shot:

Pinterest Screen Shot 

And here’s a link to the board: http://pinterest.com/jkennedy77/tattoos/

You will go nuts over Pinterest too and it is super easy to get started.  You won’t really need a tutorial or help from anyone – you will easily figure it out as you go.  In order to open your own Pinterest account, visit www.pinterest.com and request an invite.  It doesn’t seem like I waited more than a day or so for an email with access information from Pinterest.  Make sure you install the bookmark when you open your account – instructions are on the Pinterest site, and were easy to follow.  Speaking of following, be sure to follow me on Pinterest at: JKennedy77

Happy Pinning!

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question of the week: what’s next? June 07, 2011 posted in Question of the Week

I love hearing feedback from other planners when I pose a Question of the Week.  I keep reading that Vintage is out, overdone, so last year…

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but it is soooo lovely!  So my question is….If vintage is out, what’s next?

Have a great Tuesday!

  • Michelle Loretta:

    COLOR! COLOR! COLOR! For those brides that are ready to move away from vintage, they are going to move away from it with GUSTO! We are going to start seeing lots of bold color in weddings. (Think: Indian wedding ala Monsoon Wedding). It will be a while before we start to see this trend hit hard, but it will definitely be hitting us. :)

    2011.Jun.10 12:58 pm

  • Rayna Ortwein:

    I think vintage is here to stay for at least a few more years. Bride’s in my area are still in love with vintage! I do think we will see a trend toward more whimsy as well as glam. We shall see!

    2011.Jun.07 12:47 pm




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own new show: “don’t tell the bride” casting call June 06, 2011 posted in Serious Business

A couple of weeks ago, I received an e-mail from Rebecca Greenberg, a casting producer for a new show coming to the Oprah Winfrey Network called, “Don’t Tell the Bride!”

This is a portion of the email from Rebecca:

“We are casting dynamic couples who are currently engaged, but lack the funds to have a dream wedding.  “Don’t Tell the Bride” gives $25,000 to 8 cash-strapped couples to create the wedding of their dreams.  The only catch is the bride and groom can’t see each other for three weeks before the nuptials, AND the groom has to plan the whole wedding in secret (with NO input from his bride). 

Casting Requirements:

- Must be over 18 years of age

- Currently engaged

- Willing and able to get legally married between July 2011 – September 2011

- Have a few groomsmen and bridesmaids with big personalities willing to be on the show with you

- No long distance or destination weddings. You must be willing to marry within driving distance of couple’s residence(s).

For more information or to recommend an engaged couple for the show, please contact REBECCA at 323.904.4680 x1050 OR email me at rgreenberg@shedmediaus.com with your name, age, number, city/state, photo of the couple, and brief description of why you’d be ideal for the show.”

Now wouldn’t you know that all my couples are currently underway with their planning?  This sounds like such a fun opportunity – I hope my fellow planners will pass the info along to your clients.

Here is a flyer that Rebecca sent also:

Dont tell the bride

Wishing you all a great week!

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linnyette richardson hall – diva day June 01, 2011 posted in DIVADay

Linnyette Richardson Hall is the Owner and Creative Director of Premiere Event Management, a Baltimore-based firm that specializes in creating unique, elegant, fun and personality-oriented events.  She is the Special Contributing Editor of the two book series Going to the Chapel (Penguin Putnam 1998) which was created for couples who are in the wonderful process of planning their nuptials. Formerly, Linnyette was Contributing Editor for Signature Bride Magazine and Columnist forWeddingChannel.com. American television audiences are able to see her work her "wedding magic" as one of the featured consultants on the hit reality television series, “Whose Wedding Is It Anyway?" which airs weekly on The Style Network.

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Linnyette has been in the wedding industry since 1993 and has planned hundreds of weddings for brides & grooms locally and on a nationwide basis. Linnyette’s expertise has been featured in many local and national publications such as Glamour,Essence & Black Enterprise magazines, The Washington Post as well as appearing on CNN, FOX News, CBS and a host of other media outlets.

The Stylish Planner is so pleased to have Linnyette as a contributing guest blogger! I feel her “tell it like it is” personality combined with her years of wedding and event planning experience make her feature a “must read”! The feature is aptly titled “DIVA Day”, and will be posted on the first Wednesday of every other month!

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Exit Strategy

Summer is upon us and for many in the professional wedding planning sector, it’s SHOWTIME!  For the next 3 months or so (depending on your geographical location), nuptial celebrations are on your weekly “to do” list and just like Bill Murray’s character in “Groundhog Day”, every weekend will have you hitting the alarm clock and headed out to do what you do best!

So why is this installment of DIVA Day entitled “Exit Strategy”?  It’s quite simple, really – for all of the planning we do for our clients, how many of you have sat down and clearly thought about how you will “retire” from the uber-hectic world of wedding planning & consulting?  Retirement?  Are you kidding me??  (Yes – I can hear the exclamations now).  But, it’s a worthwhile thought pattern to start formulating – no matter where you are on the experience spectrum.  Do you really want to be the 75 year old wedding planner having to chase down chicks in white dresses EVERY single weekend or would you rather be the 60 year old planner who makes the graceful exit after leaving her mark on the wedding world?

In my former life B.W.P. {before wedding planning}, I worked in financial services and my job was to help people make money on their investments as well as get them started/entrenched in a good, solid retirement plan.  What I learned from that very storied experience is that thinking ahead makes TOTAL SENSE.  I’ve been a wedding planner since 1993, so I’m now in my 18th year of “making the magic happen”.  I’m also turning 50 in December and will be the first to say that the mindset and physical capabilities of the 32 year old planner are vastly different than my current almost-a-half-century iteration.  It is what it is.

I got into this field because I loved everything (and still do!) about it.  I also got into it because my entrepreneurial spirit led me here…knowing that it would be a good fit for me.  I did not come into the business expecting to stay here forever – my theory has always been that everything has it proper season, time and place…and as a good, forward-thinking businesswoman, I have to know when to say “when”.  The same applies to all of you.  Planning the veritable “exit strategy” means that you will have to face one hard reality – you’re not going to be doing this for the rest of your life.  And for many, that will be a very, very hard pill to swallow. 

Don’t fret – look at your strategy sessions as building blocks for an even more richer, productive future.  Think about where you want to be when you are 40, 50, 60 and beyond.  Imagine the life you wish to have, complete with all of the creature comforts you love and have grown accustomed to as well as insuring that your financial future is in the bank.  It’s never too early to start planning for the rest of your life – the key is to be realistically smart.   While you may “retire” from the day-to-day operations of your business, now is the perfect time to nurture and cultivate a great staff who can run the show for you.  It also never hurts to stick your well-manicured tootsies back in to the water….for us true, blue wedding planners – the hunger to create never ends.  I’ve been working on my personal exit strategy for a while now and it’s finally starting to take root.  The end result will be a gorgeous, magnificently blooming lifestyle that I will love, honor and cherish.  Oh…and I’ll still be making money doing what brings me joy – just on another level.

So, if you haven’t starting thinking about how you’ll be getting “out”, there’s no time like the present.  Review your retirement plans/investments, think about more in-depth training for your interns/associates (if you have them).  And if you’re pretty much running solo – now is the perfect opportunity to start bringing like-minded folks into your atmosphere.  They’ll be a blessing now and in your future game plans.  Create a list of what you really WANT your future to look like – then go ahead and make it happen.  And by the way, all of this planning is not an “end”.  I want you to look at how the possibilities and new beginnings your current career can bring to an even richer one in your distant future.

Allow me to leave you with one of my life’s “mantras”:

“If you advance confidently in the direction of your dreams and endeavor to live the life that you have imagined, you will meet with a success unexpected in common hours”
-Henry David Thoreau

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